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IT'S WORSE THAN WE THOUGHT, TOWN DEBT OVER $25 MILLION

Date: 02:25 PM Oct 30, 2007

Jim, don't you think your numbers should add up the same way twice to have credibility?

Also, since the debt hit it's highest point in 2005 before HF came into office, don't you think the Republicans and Democrats bear some responsibility?

Admin · Status: Offline

The one lacking credibility is the Mayor, He is the one who neglected to report the whole story to the people. As for my numbers, it took a little digging and some help from others to uncover this, that is why it took a little while for us to see it.

And you can't balme the highest debt on anyone else but the current administration now. This is definitely the highest debt ever experienced by the town.

Date: 02:46 PM Oct 30, 2007

So what you're telling me is that the Mayor knowingly told two newspapers in Town that the debt went down, all the while knowing that there was $7 million in unissued bonds for the Town Hall and "various improvements."

What's even scarier is that if they haven't sold those bonds yet, they must be taking out short term financing loans to pay the Construction Company throughout the year. That means even more interest payments just to hide the bigger debt.

The real loser here is you and I, the Hammonton taxpayer. If the Mayor cared about the Town, he would have made slight almost insignificant tax raises the last two years to help soften the blow of $7 million in loans. Since he didn't, in 2008, we'll have to cover the whole thing! Why wasn't he thinking of the taxpayers wallets when he built his new castle?

Date: 03:31 PM Oct 30, 2007

IF the town hall on 11th st was built it would be more debt if the admin numbers are right the increase due to the town hall and boyer ave. So I say that's not bad but what major project does the old m and chave to show for the 19 mil they racked up plus the fact that they always had tax increases. so I say good job hf and keep it up.

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The point of this thread is that the public has been deceived about the true status of the debt.

Date: 08:55 PM Oct 30, 2007

Anonymous wrote:

Jim, don't you think your numbers should add up the same way twice to have credibility?

Also, since the debt hit it's highest point in 2005 before HF came into office, don't you think the Republicans and Democrats bear some responsibility?

It is funny that when HF took office and explained to everyone how the previous administration had run a deficit and had left huge debt, the all said "no, not true." Then they finally admitted that yes, debt hit a record level in 2005, the year before HF took office. Really?

Now they naysayers want to ignore the town's certified auditor. They have posted several different numbers, none of which add up the same. Really?

I guess the Democrats are saying that if they are elected they'll be raising taxes as Rich Jacobus said.

Admin · Status: Offline

You get more ridiculous with each post.
HF never said anything about a huge debt and the bull they were feeding about the deficit was a spin just like the current one about the debt.
Yes, the debt hit a high in 2005, we read that in the audit report, now you need to read the rest of the report to see what this year brings.
The number keeps changing because it is just shocking to us that the Mayor failed to relay this information to the people of Hammonton. The further we go into the report the worse it gets.
And the Democrats are not saying they will raise taxes, quite the opposite.

Date: 11:56 PM Oct 30, 2007

On previous posts you have claimed that the debt hit record high levels at the end of 2005 and complained that while HF lowered it but only by a little. Now you are complaining something different. Shouldn't you be more consistent with your numbers?

Wouldn't it be better to use the data from the certified auditor for the town who explained the debt is going down?

Date: 12:27 AM Oct 31, 2007

Anonymous wrote:
Wouldn't it be better to use the data from the certified auditor for the town who explained the debt is going down?

He is using actual data. Didn't you look at the scan of the pages from the audit?

Do you think Dolan Construction is building a Town Hall for us for free? It's right in the audit you silly rabbit.

Date: 08:14 AM Oct 31, 2007

Time to sell and get out of this town!!! Oh wait home sales stink too and the giant tax increase that's coming will put the final nail in the coffin. Thank you so much Mayor Know It All.

Date: 08:30 AM Oct 31, 2007

hf shows new 2008 budget will have no tax increase
they have already done this two years in a row
school had no tax increase this year
the proof is in the tax bill and it hasn't gone up
dems and rep never stepped it up

Admin · Status: Offline

It's time to let the Dems show what they can do. We have had years of the Regular Republicans holding up projects, We have had two years of the self serving Hammonton First Republicans keeping taxes down by passing on huge debt to our kids, now let's put the Dems in there to show hoe their plans keep taxes in check and lower the debt.

Date: 10:11 AM Oct 31, 2007

to all the bashers hf has lowered taxes and the debt right now is lower the debt will go up witht the new town hall. however , the thown hall will be much less then the 11th st town hall. and yes it is a great looking building and a asset to hammonton. the word is zero tax increases at the town and school next year. so as the whole nation is in a home sale slump . I belevie that the next few years will be some of hammonotn's shinning moments.

I must ask what is being put off in terms of debt for the future.

yes as i thought you can not give a answer.

vote to continue progress vote hf.

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What is being put off to the future is paying for all the debt you are putting this town into. Some of the debt will be paid off in 13 years, some of it will take 30 years to pay off. We have $25 million in debt and you are totally unconcerned. Do we want your party who is not even worried about all of the debt? NO. Do we want your party to continue adding to the debt to make themselves look good? NO.
We have to live within our means. There are a lot of things we need to get done in this town, but we need to do them without raising taxes and without pushing the debt any higher. We need to prioritize the future projects of the town and "pay as we go" so we don't make our children pay for the things we build for ourselves.

-- Edited by Admin at 10:55, 2007-10-31

Date: 11:49 AM Oct 31, 2007

HF has announced that they will provide their third straight year of no tax increases. The debt has gone down. The reality is that the results are there for all to see. NO TAX INCREASE.

Date: 11:55 AM Oct 31, 2007

Anonymous wrote:

to all the bashers hf has lowered taxes and the debt right now is lower the debt will go up witht the new town hall. however , the thown hall will be much less then the 11th st town hall. and yes it is a great looking building and a asset to hammonton. the word is zero tax increases at the town and school next year. so as the whole nation is in a home sale slump . I belevie that the next few years will be some of hammonotn's shinning moments.

I must ask what is being put off in terms of debt for the future.

yes as i thought you can not give a answer.

vote to continue progress vote hf.

How do you know the school is going to have a zero tax increase next year. Hammonton First isn't trying to run the schools again are they?

The schools got a one time influx of $1,000,000 to make up for all the years of poor funding, but that was a one time shot and the schools won't have that next year. There is pending litigation. There are negotiations next year. Too many things are still going on to be able to make that prediction.

Or is this just more misleading statements to make yourselves look good again?

Date: 12:03 PM Oct 31, 2007

Anonymous wrote:

HF has announced that they will provide their third straight year of no tax increases. The debt has gone down. The reality is that the results are there for all to see. NO TAX INCREASE.

It's all good!

Date: 12:05 PM Oct 31, 2007

Anonymous wrote:

HF has announced that they will provide their third straight year of no tax increases. The debt has gone down. The reality is that the results are there for all to see. NO TAX INCREASE.

Is this promise as good as their $5.9 million promise for the entire town hall/community center project? We all see how well that promise was kept. I guess they will promise anything to get elected and then hope the voters forget when the next election rolls around.

Date: 01:11 PM Oct 31, 2007

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

HF has announced that they will provide their third straight year of no tax increases. The debt has gone down. The reality is that the results are there for all to see. NO TAX INCREASE.

It's all good!

How can you trust what Hammonton First say if they fail to send their campaign finance reports. What are they hiding?

Date: 01:14 PM Oct 31, 2007

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

HF has announced that they will provide their third straight year of no tax increases. The debt has gone down. The reality is that the results are there for all to see. NO TAX INCREASE.

It's all good!

The people of Hammonton demand better than GOOD. Hammonton was a great place to live, work and play before Hammonton First came to existence. Once Hammonton First is swept again, we will further have our town back. Hammonton First was a one issue party. The party's over for them and we can all say. It's All Great, now that the Hammonton First Corporation is shut down.

Date: 01:28 PM Oct 31, 2007

APRIL FOOLS DAY 2008

the new town hall will be ready on April 1st, & the joke is on the taxpayers

HAMMONTON NEWS story Oct. 31, 2007

HAMMONTON -- Concrete at the new Town Hall building currently under construction at the corner of Vine Street and Central Avenue has passed tests, according to Steve DiDonato, chairman of the hall's building committee. ...
... Meanwhile, construction on the three-story building has progressed. "Last week we had three or four days of rain but we are hoping for this week we will get the roof in pretty good shape. Next week we are hoping to be putting sheet rock up. Right now, we hope to be substantially complete by March 15 and doing some punch list items by April 1," DiDonato said.

Date: 01:47 PM Oct 31, 2007

Anonymous wrote:

HF has announced that they will provide their third straight year of no tax increases. The debt has gone down. The reality is that the results are there for all to see. NO TAX INCREASE.

They already did this two years in a row. So now 2008 will be year three!

Admin · Status: Offline

DEBT $25 MILLION AN COUNTING!!!!

Date: 02:39 PM Oct 31, 2007

jim , so you say above no new debt . so you say your party would not have built the new town hall and kept the police in the basement. shame on you
vote hf

Admin · Status: Offline

That debt is already included in the $25 MILLION debt the Mayor ignores. Nice try, the Town Hall is priority and long ago we already statedthat that is the type of item, if any, that needs bonding.
HF spinning the truth again, just can't help themselves. Vote Democrat. Don't get fooled again!

-- Edited by Admin at 14:56, 2007-10-31

Date: 03:33 PM Oct 31, 2007

Anonymous wrote:

jim , so you say above no new debt . so you say your party would not have built the new town hall and kept the police in the basement. shame on you
vote hf

The new station for the police will be beautiful. And HF has a 2008 budget with NO TAX INCREASE!

Admin · Status: Offline

Let's see this budget.

Date: 04:00 PM Oct 31, 2007

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

jim , so you say above no new debt . so you say your party would not have built the new town hall and kept the police in the basement. shame on you
vote hf

The new station for the police will be beautiful. And HF has a 2008 budget with NO TAX INCREASE!

The nice thing is that the town's already seen two years in a row of ZERO TAX INCREASES from Hammonton First. In addition, this year the school had no tax increase. 2008 will be another great year!

Admin · Status: Offline

But we have seen the debt rise to $25 MILLION. We can't afford this type of accounting, we will go broke.
What are your plans to make 2008 a great year, let's see this budget you already have that proves this.

Date: 04:12 PM Oct 31, 2007

Admin wrote:

But we have seen the debt rise to $25 MILLION. We can't afford this type of accounting, we will go broke.
What are your plans to make 2008 a great year, let's see this budget you already have that proves this.

The numbers you have don't even add up the same way twice. The front webpage says $18M. This says $25M. How about saying more?

HF already proposed a budget for ZERO TAX INCREASE in 2008. Looks like the Democrats don't know how to keep taxes down. This is as easy vote. HF to keep your taxes down!

Admin · Status: Offline

The numbers do add up, we found that the debt was almost $19,000,000 and then as we looked into it further we found more debt the Mayor tried to hide from the public making the debt $25 MILLION.

We want to see the HF proposed budget for 2008. You keep saying it shows no tax increase, let's see it.

Date: 04:40 PM Oct 31, 2007

Admin wrote:

The numbers do add up, we found that the debt was almost $19,000,000 and then as we looked into it further we found more debt the Mayor tried to hide from the public making the debt $25 MILLION.

We want to see the HF proposed budget for 2008. You keep saying it shows no tax increase, let's see it.

Jim, you are counting the same numbers several times. Also, your ads are wrong. When you call town hall, you can ask for bank balances if you'd like. They will show you the adding mistake you made.

Also, the certified independent auditor showed debt went down.

HF has done two years in a row of no tax increases and has already explained they will have no tax increase is 2008.

You seem disappointed. Don't you think that no tax increase is a good thing?

Date: 04:41 PM Oct 31, 2007

Don't waste your time Admin, they don't have a budget for 2008 done. We still don't know what the tax ratables will be for next years budget so how could they do one yet? This is just another promise they can't fullfil like the town Hall for $5.9 million. The community center is now just a senior center and they are looking for extra money to pay for it. There is less parking at the new town hall. They are not buying any new furniture like they promised, just moving the old stuff, which by the way sound s strange because how do you fill a 23,000 SF building with furniture from a 8,500 SF building? The old town hall demolition is now an extra. The landscaping is now an extra. Relocation of the old town hall had to come out of other funds intended for a different use. They couldn't deliver on that promise and this new promise is just a ploy to try and get votes. We know it won't work. We won't get fooled again!

Date: 04:48 PM Oct 31, 2007

NO TAX INCREASE FOR 2008 WITH HAMMONTON FIRST!

Admin · Status: Offline

IT'S WORSE THAN WE THOUGHT, TOWN DEBT OVER $25 MILLION

Date: 04:53 PM Oct 31, 2007

NO TAX INCREASE IN 2008 WITH HAMMONTON FIRST

Admin · Status: Offline

IT'S WORSE THAN WE THOUGHT, TOWN DEBT OVER $25 MILLION

Date: 06:59 PM Oct 31, 2007

Anonymous wrote:

APRIL FOOLS DAY 2008

the new town hall will be ready on April 1st, & the joke is on the taxpayers

HAMMONTON NEWS story Oct. 31, 2007

HAMMONTON -- Concrete at the new Town Hall building currently under construction at the corner of Vine Street and Central Avenue has passed tests, according to Steve DiDonato, chairman of the hall's building committee. ...
... Meanwhile, construction on the three-story building has progressed. "Last week we had three or four days of rain but we are hoping for this week we will get the roof in pretty good shape. Next week we are hoping to be putting sheet rock up. Right now, we hope to be substantially complete by March 15 and doing some punch list items by April 1," DiDonato said.

perfect news for HALLOWEEN , they can say TRICK OR TREAT to all the town taxpayers today

Date: 07:55 PM Oct 31, 2007

NO TAX INCREASE IN 2008 WITH HAMMONTON FIRST

Admin · Status: Offline

RE: IT'S WORSE THAN WE THOUGHT, TOWN DEBT OVER $25 MILLION

Date: 09:51 PM Oct 31, 2007

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

HF has announced that they will provide their third straight year of no tax increases. The debt has gone down. The reality is that the results are there for all to see. NO TAX INCREASE.

They already did this two years in a row. So now 2008 will be year three!

The only thing that can be guaranteed is Hammonton First getting swept. We Won't Get Fooled Again.

Date: 12:02 AM Nov 1, 2007

The Hammonton First slogan of It's All Good makes me think of the tobacco companies continuously telling us that Tobacco was healthy for us. The Tobacco company lied and have been sued just like Hammonton First. It took scientists who work for the Tobacco companies to bring those companies down and made them reveal the truth. I hope that Hammonton First supporters make the Hammonton First Corporation tell the truth about their deceiving campaign ads and why they refuse to reveal their campaign finance reports. How can we trust Hammonton First on any town finance reports and the town's multimillion dollar budgets if they can't reveal a simple report that's just several thousand dollars.

Date: 12:16 AM Nov 1, 2007

NO TAX INCREASE IN 2008 WITH HAMMONTON FIRST

Date: 12:50 AM Nov 1, 2007

RE: IT'S WORSE THAN WE THOUGHT, TOWN DEBT OVER $25 MILLION

Admin · Status: Offline

The Hammonton First camp continues to claim that they have a budget already put together for 2008 but they refuse to show it to us. What are they trying to hide. The Hammonton First party has now ignored the deadlines on filing requjired campaign reports twice, the law requires these reports, What are they hiding? Hammonton First has held up pretty pictures of other projects they propose to complete next year but when asked to show the plans on how to fund these projects, they refuse to show these plans, What are they hiding?

So much for "open and honest government". They are hiding everything they are doing. And this is only the tip of the iceberg.

-- Edited by Admin at 10:51, 2007-11-01

Date: 10:27 AM Nov 1, 2007

HF already delivered two budgets in a row with no tax increase. Even the school had no tax increase this year. Now HF is saying they'll do it again in 2008.

Admin · Status: Offline

You have admitted that we need to hire more people in our police department and this information came out after you supposedly put together the 2008 budget. So how can you make this claim when you are working with incomplete numbers. We have asked you repeatedly to show us the budget that you have and you refuse. It is an obvious attempt at deceiving the public.

Date: 12:49 PM Nov 1, 2007

Anonymous wrote:

HF already delivered two budgets in a row with no tax increase. Even the school had no tax increase this year. Now HF is saying they'll do it again in 2008.

Hammonton First will increase the debt in 2008 again like they did this year.

Date: 01:30 PM Nov 1, 2007

Anonymous wrote:

HF already delivered two budgets in a row with no tax increase. Even the school had no tax increase this year. Now HF is saying they'll do it again in 2008.

Given all the new spending the Democrats are demanding, how much will Anthony Falcone ask for in tax increases?

Admin · Status: Offline

Anthony Falcone will not ask for any tax increase.

Date: 03:51 PM Nov 1, 2007

2008 NO TAX INCREASE THANKS TO HAMMONTON FIRST

Date: 05:41 PM Nov 1, 2007

RE: IT'S WORSE THAN WE THOUGHT, TOWN DEBT OVER $25 MILLION

Date: 09:45 PM Nov 1, 2007

yeah wanna know why, because he lost the election before it started. haha.

print this out if by some magical wond he wins he says it right here no new taxes..

Date: 10:26 PM Nov 1, 2007

Let's deal with one reality here. The Mayor still has 1.2 milion left of the 4.2 million surplus of 2005. You remember that surplus, the ones the Republicans and Anthony Falcone had built up? Well, he's got just enough left to blow before you have to get your taxes raised. So in reality, he's got another year he can show no new taxes.

The sad part is, had he just raised taxes 1 cent for three years in a row, the tax rate of 2009 wouldn't jump 10 cents. It might only go up 7 cents. But I guess its better to be hit with a MAC truck at 90mph than have a toy car roll over you.

Loyal Dem · Status: Offline

HF was bad news from Day one with their backroom politics. But the question is:
Where were the Republicans when all of this debt was being created? They had three seats for almost a year. Now, suddenly, the GOP has gotten on its high horse with one week until the election. HF and the GOP do have one thing in common. They think Hammontonians are stupid.

The Dems have been exposing HF since the beginning. It's time for a change. Vote Democratic.

Date: 03:08 PM Nov 2, 2007

Anonymous wrote:
Hammonton is certainly unique in New Jersey.? Property taxes are skyrocketing in New Jersey.??Democrat and Republican politicians are fighting statewide over who is more corrupt and who has stolen more.??The state is bankrupt.

In our town, Hammonton First has already had no tax increase two years in a row.??They now have announced they'll have no increase in 2008, either.

Vote for the Democrats. They have what it takes to raise our taxes and spend more money!

Admin · Status: Offline

Vote for the Democrats! They have what it takes to stop the wild "borrow and Spend" policy that is putting us deeper and deeper in debt. We can't keep our taxes low by spending like crazy and making our children pay for it.

Date: 11:17 AM Nov 3, 2007

The town council candidates are in todays AC press. Why does Jerry Barnerio say he is a life long Hammonton resident? What year did he graduate from Hammonton High or St Joe? More Lies!

Date: 11:45 AM Nov 3, 2007

Anonymous wrote:

The town council candidates are in todays AC press. Why does Jerry Barnerio say he is a life long Hammonton resident? What year did he graduate from Hammonton High or St Joe? More Lies!

Anonymous wrote:

They really need to call him Jerry come lately.

Also why did he change his name, I thought he was a proud Italian, just another lie. He is the king of liars.

Wy did Jerry Berberio have to post bail in Vineland?

http://www.thedailyjournal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070930/NEWS01/70930002

scroll down about half way. $500 bucks? What did he do? Is he a criminal? Is he fit to be elected?

Is that the reason for the public name change fraud?

#5 do a Google search on:

Jerome Barberio vineland nj

You will find what he is hiding by using a different name.

If you search using his new name "Jerry" you do not find the recent information about his problem in Vineland, NJ.

Date: 09:28 AM Nov 4, 2007

Anonymous wrote:

Is that the reason for the public name change fraud?

#5 do a Google search on:
Jerome Barberio vineland nj

You will find what he is hiding by using a different name.

If you search using his new name "Jerry" you do not find the recent information about his problem in Vineland, NJ.

Is his name Jerry, Jerome or some other name? Jerry is my age and he wasn't in my class at St. Joe. Any word from Hammonton Graduates. Did Jerry go to school with you seeing how he's a lifelong resident of Hammonton?

Date: 09:08 PM Nov 4, 2007

Anonymous wrote:
hf shows new 2008 budget will have no tax increase
they have already done this two years in a row
school had no tax increase this year
the proof is in the tax bill and it hasn't gone up
dems and rep never stepped it up

It looks like both the Dems and Reps don't have a way to keep our taxes down. They just want to spend more money and tax us to death.

Date: 09:53 PM Nov 4, 2007

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
hf shows new 2008 budget will have no tax increase
they have already done this two years in a row
school had no tax increase this year
the proof is in the tax bill and it hasn't gone up
dems and rep never stepped it up

It looks like both the Dems and Reps don't have a way to keep our taxes down. They just want to spend more money and tax us to death.

The Dems and Reps do have a way to keep our taxes down. By defeating Hammonton First, we can stop increasing our debt. We're going to be taxing our children to death with Hammonton First's fiscal irresponsibility. We're at the highest debt in Hammonton's history.

Date: 01:35 PM Nov 5, 2007

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
hf shows new 2008 budget will have no tax increase
they have already done this two years in a row
school had no tax increase this year
the proof is in the tax bill and it hasn't gone up
dems and rep never stepped it up

It looks like both the Dems and Reps don't have a way to keep our taxes down. They just want to spend more money and tax us to death.

HF is the only party that came out with no tax increase for 2008. They also lowered the debt as the town's independent certified auditor explained.

The Democrats are screaming for more spending and hiring on the police and highway departments. That sure won't lower taxes.

The Reps already pushed for a tax increase this year so you know what will happen if they grab another seat on council.

Date: 04:37 PM Nov 5, 2007

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
hf shows new 2008 budget will have no tax increase
they have already done this two years in a row
school had no tax increase this year
the proof is in the tax bill and it hasn't gone up
dems and rep never stepped it up

It looks like both the Dems and Reps don't have a way to keep our taxes down. They just want to spend more money and tax us to death.

HF is the only party that came out with no tax increase for 2008. They also lowered the debt as the town's independent certified auditor explained.

The Democrats are screaming for more spending and hiring on the police and highway departments. That sure won't lower taxes.

The Reps already pushed for a tax increase this year so you know what will happen if they grab another seat on council.

Hammonton First when they finally reveal their campaign finance reports would have revealed that they have spent OVER QUARTER OF A MILLION DOLLARS for postions that pay NOTHING. They don't want to make their campaign finance reports public because they are about the profits and not the people.