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According to a report on MyHammonton.com the second round of tests for the water in the lake came back even better than the first. According to Councilman Vitalo the lake will remain closed for a little longer for continued testing, but it looks as though we are on our way to have a swimmable lake again.

Just think how much sooner this could have been accomplished if Town Council would have approved this system last year.

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Actually, why didn't the Republicans and Democrats vote for Clean-Flo in 2005 when it was just six R's and Anthony Falcone on council?  This looks like another project where nothing was done for a long time!

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Actually, why didn't the Republicans and Democrats vote for Clean-Flo in 2005 when it was just six R's and Anthony Falcone on council?  This looks like another project where nothing was done for a long time!



Because we now have the Hammonton Lake water commission to fight for the lake and make sure we do the right thing, something that was missing for a long time.  This commission was approved by the current council and is made up of individuals who not only care about a great resource but are also knowledgeable enough to make sound decisions regardless of their political views. 



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Actually, why didn't the Republicans and Democrats vote for Clean-Flo in 2005 when it was just six R's and Anthony Falcone on council?  This looks like another project where nothing was done for a long time!



Because we now have the Hammonton Lake water commission to fight for the lake and make sure we do the right thing, something that was missing for a long time.  This commission was approved by the current council and is made up of individuals who not only care about a great resource but are also knowledgeable enough to make sound decisions regardless of their political views. 



The mayor certainly has the ability to bring in a lot of highly qualified people to fix problems and get things done.



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The Mayor didn't need to bring these people on to get Clean-Flo going. We were given a money back gaurantee. This commission is doing fine work and will continue to develop ways to improve the lake, but we didn't need them to get Clean-Flo going.

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Really , Then while did it not get done until they came around. 

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Really , Then while did it not get done until they came around. 




It didn't get done until Jerry Vitalo and Anthony Marino got elected.   Hammonton First laughed the Clean Flo program out the door.  They wanted nothing to do with it last year.  Thanks to the Republicans this year we got it in and cleaned the lake.



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OK I give you that one .  at any rate it did get done this year.  So i goes as a plus for the whole group.

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Actually, why didn't the Republicans and Democrats vote for Clean-Flo in 2005 when it was just six R's and Anthony Falcone on council?  This looks like another project where nothing was done for a long time!



Because we now have the Hammonton Lake water commission to fight for the lake and make sure we do the right thing, something that was missing for a long time.  This commission was approved by the current council and is made up of individuals who not only care about a great resource but are also knowledgeable enough to make sound decisions regardless of their political views. 



The mayor certainly has the ability to bring in a lot of highly qualified people to fix problems and get things done.




It always seems like people complain about HF but why weren't these things done before HF if the Republicans were so good at completing tasks?



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Actually, why didn't the Republicans and Democrats vote for Clean-Flo in 2005 when it was just six R's and Anthony Falcone on council? This looks like another project where nothing was done for a long time!




 Yes on that but when it came to vote on finally voting for Clean-Flo, Hammonton First voted NO.  The lake could have been cleaned last year after finally we had a guaranteed solution.



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Actually, why didn't the Republicans and Democrats vote for Clean-Flo in 2005 when it was just six R's and Anthony Falcone on council? This looks like another project where nothing was done for a long time!




 Yes on that but when it came to vote on finally voting for Clean-Flo, Hammonton First voted NO.  The lake could have been cleaned last year after finally we had a guaranteed solution.





You must have fogotten to take your medication that day. HF all voted YES, There was a presentation by several experts the Mayor asked to verify the solution. Two of them were PhDs.

That same vote, as usual, was not attended by Anthony Falcone. He rarely showed up to meetings and missed more than any other councilperson.

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Falcone did not miss more meetings than any other council person. Again you are ditorting the facts. Anthony had a great attendance record, There are 2 people on council right now who have attrocious records compared to any other council person.
And I believe you have misread what the previous poster meant. I believe he is talking about the vote when we had a money back gaurantee and HF all voted no. This was last year's vote.

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Here are the facts on the CleanFlo vote.  This is copied directly from the December 18, 2006 Town Council Meeting Minutes which are available online.

Notice the roll call section.  Y=yes, N=no, and A=absent.

#R165B-2006 Award-Clean Flo System
  WHEREAS, N.J.S.A. 40A:11-5(1)(a)ii provides that a contract may be
awarded without competitive bidding as an extraordinary unspecifiable
service when specific requirements have been met, and
 WHEREAS, the Local Public Contracts Law (N.J.S.A. 40:11-1 et seq.)
specifies the requirements delineated in N.J.A.C. 5:34-2 et. seq. must be met including the filing of a certification with the Governing Body clearly describing the nature of the work to be done, stating that it is not reasonably possible to draft specifications, describing the informal solicitation of quotations, and describing in detail why the contract meets the provisions of the statute and the rules specified in N.J.A.C. 5:34-2 et. seq., and
 WHEREAS, the requirements set forth in N.J.A.C. 5:34-2.3(b) have been
met,
 NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED by the Town Council of the Town of
Hammonton that a contract to Clean-Flo International in an amount not to exceed $36,850.00 be awarded.
 Motion by Councilperson S. Lewis, seconded by Councilperson Bertino, adopt resolution, authorize contract and purchase order in the amount of $36,850.00 to Clean-Flo International CONTINGENT UPON review of agreement by Town Solicitor(especially the return/refund policy), approval of funding source by Town CFO, and securing of all other necessary permits (State and otherwise).
 

ROLL CALL

Bertino - Y
Colasurdo - Y
Falcone - A
Massarelli - Y
S. Lewis - Y
Wuillermin - Y
Mayor DiDonato - Y
 Mayor DiDonato declared the motion carried.


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More selective memory from the HF con artistsThe Kool-Aid must be damaging their brains, they can't seem to remember that they were controlling the Town Council agendas in March of 2006MinutesREGULAR MEETING OF COUNCILHeld in Town Hall Council Chambers100 Central Avenue, Hammonton, N.J.Monday, March 13, 2006 at 7:00 P.M.Research Clean Flow for March 27 council meetingAfter a discussion the Mayor and Council authorized investigation intoadditional costs of clean flow program and report back to council atMarch 27 for adoption of resolution for unspecified services withcontingencies.
MinutesREGULAR MEETING OF COUNCILHeld in Town Hall Council Chambers100 Central Avenue, Hammonton, N.J.Monday, March 27, 2006 at 7:00 P.M.Councilperson S. LewisParks & RecreationSince the lake will be closed for swimming this summer, the Commissionsuggested other uses of the lake for residents to enjoy. Lou Rodio wasrequested to check into companies that rent canoes & kayaks subject tothe Solicitors review.

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That is not the vote the poster is refering to. The post is talking about the vote almost a year earlier in March where the money back gaurantee was offered and council voted not to go forward.

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Here are the facts on the CleanFlo vote.  This is copied directly from the December 18, 2006 Town Council Meeting Minutes which are available online.

Notice the roll call section.  Y=yes, N=no, and A=absent.

#R165B-2006 Award-Clean Flo System
  WHEREAS, N.J.S.A. 40A:11-5(1)(a)ii provides that a contract may be
awarded without competitive bidding as an extraordinary unspecifiable
service when specific requirements have been met, and
 WHEREAS, the Local Public Contracts Law (N.J.S.A. 40:11-1 et seq.)
specifies the requirements delineated in N.J.A.C. 5:34-2 et. seq. must be met including the filing of a certification with the Governing Body clearly describing the nature of the work to be done, stating that it is not reasonably possible to draft specifications, describing the informal solicitation of quotations, and describing in detail why the contract meets the provisions of the statute and the rules specified in N.J.A.C. 5:34-2 et. seq., and
 WHEREAS, the requirements set forth in N.J.A.C. 5:34-2.3(b) have been
met,
 NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED by the Town Council of the Town of
Hammonton that a contract to Clean-Flo International in an amount not to exceed $36,850.00 be awarded.
 Motion by Councilperson S. Lewis, seconded by Councilperson Bertino, adopt resolution, authorize contract and purchase order in the amount of $36,850.00 to Clean-Flo International CONTINGENT UPON review of agreement by Town Solicitor(especially the return/refund policy), approval of funding source by Town CFO, and securing of all other necessary permits (State and otherwise).
 

ROLL CALL

Bertino - Y
Colasurdo - Y
Falcone - A
Massarelli - Y
S. Lewis - Y
Wuillermin - Y
Mayor DiDonato - Y
 Mayor DiDonato declared the motion carried.


This is comical.  Jerry Vitalo is running around telling everyone he voted Clean Flo in.  He wasn't even on council at the time.  Very funny. 

And why didn't Anthony Falcone show up at the meeting?



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Anonymous wrote:

Here are the facts on the CleanFlo vote.  This is copied directly from the December 18, 2006 Town Council Meeting Minutes which are available online.

Notice the roll call section.  Y=yes, N=no, and A=absent.

#R165B-2006 Award-Clean Flo System
  WHEREAS, N.J.S.A. 40A:11-5(1)(a)ii provides that a contract may be
awarded without competitive bidding as an extraordinary unspecifiable
service when specific requirements have been met, and
 WHEREAS, the Local Public Contracts Law (N.J.S.A. 40:11-1 et seq.)
specifies the requirements delineated in N.J.A.C. 5:34-2 et. seq. must be met including the filing of a certification with the Governing Body clearly describing the nature of the work to be done, stating that it is not reasonably possible to draft specifications, describing the informal solicitation of quotations, and describing in detail why the contract meets the provisions of the statute and the rules specified in N.J.A.C. 5:34-2 et. seq., and
 WHEREAS, the requirements set forth in N.J.A.C. 5:34-2.3(b) have been
met,
 NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED by the Town Council of the Town of
Hammonton that a contract to Clean-Flo International in an amount not to exceed $36,850.00 be awarded.
 Motion by Councilperson S. Lewis, seconded by Councilperson Bertino, adopt resolution, authorize contract and purchase order in the amount of $36,850.00 to Clean-Flo International CONTINGENT UPON review of agreement by Town Solicitor(especially the return/refund policy), approval of funding source by Town CFO, and securing of all other necessary permits (State and otherwise).
 

ROLL CALL

Bertino - Y
Colasurdo - Y
Falcone - A
Massarelli - Y
S. Lewis - Y
Wuillermin - Y
Mayor DiDonato - Y
 Mayor DiDonato declared the motion carried.


This is comical.  Jerry Vitalo is running around telling everyone he voted Clean Flo in.  He wasn't even on council at the time.  Very funny. 

And why didn't Anthony Falcone show up at the meeting?



More selective memory from the HF con artists distorting the facts!!!

The Kool-Aid must be damaging their brains, they can't seem to remember that they were controlling the Town Council agendas in March of 2006

Minutes
REGULAR MEETING OF COUNCILHeld in Town Hall Council Chambers100 Central Avenue, Hammonton, N.J.Monday, March 13, 2006 at 7:00 P.M.

Research Clean Flow for March 27 council meetingAfter a discussion the Mayor and Council authorized investigation intoadditional costs of clean flow program and report back to council atMarch 27 for adoption of resolution for unspecified services withcontingencies.

Minutes
REGULAR MEETING OF COUNCILHeld in Town Hall Council Chambers100 Central Avenue, Hammonton, N.J.Monday, March 27, 2006 at 7:00 P.M.

Councilperson S. LewisParks & RecreationSince the lake will be closed for swimming this summer, the Commissionsuggested other uses of the lake for residents to enjoy. Lou Rodio wasrequested to check into companies that rent canoes & kayaks subject tothe Solicitors review.


The Hammonton First controlled Town Council did not approve the Clean-Flow in March of 2006 , the Hammonton Lake was therefore closed for the summer of 2006 directly because of their failure to act on the matter when it was presented to them early last year.



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Anonymous wrote:

Here are the facts on the CleanFlo vote.  This is copied directly from the December 18, 2006 Town Council Meeting Minutes which are available online.

Notice the roll call section.  Y=yes, N=no, and A=absent.

#R165B-2006 Award-Clean Flo System
  WHEREAS, N.J.S.A. 40A:11-5(1)(a)ii provides that a contract may be
awarded without competitive bidding as an extraordinary unspecifiable
service when specific requirements have been met, and
 WHEREAS, the Local Public Contracts Law (N.J.S.A. 40:11-1 et seq.)
specifies the requirements delineated in N.J.A.C. 5:34-2 et. seq. must be met including the filing of a certification with the Governing Body clearly describing the nature of the work to be done, stating that it is not reasonably possible to draft specifications, describing the informal solicitation of quotations, and describing in detail why the contract meets the provisions of the statute and the rules specified in N.J.A.C. 5:34-2 et. seq., and
 WHEREAS, the requirements set forth in N.J.A.C. 5:34-2.3(b) have been
met,
 NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED by the Town Council of the Town of
Hammonton that a contract to Clean-Flo International in an amount not to exceed $36,850.00 be awarded.
 Motion by Councilperson S. Lewis, seconded by Councilperson Bertino, adopt resolution, authorize contract and purchase order in the amount of $36,850.00 to Clean-Flo International CONTINGENT UPON review of agreement by Town Solicitor(especially the return/refund policy), approval of funding source by Town CFO, and securing of all other necessary permits (State and otherwise).
 

ROLL CALL

Bertino - Y
Colasurdo - Y
Falcone - A
Massarelli - Y
S. Lewis - Y
Wuillermin - Y
Mayor DiDonato - Y
 Mayor DiDonato declared the motion carried.


This is comical.  Jerry Vitalo is running around telling everyone he voted Clean Flo in.  He wasn't even on council at the time.  Very funny. 

And why didn't Anthony Falcone show up at the meeting?



What's really comical is that for years the Republicans did nothing to clean up the lake.  Actually, they did nothing on just about every issue.

HF researched and voted to fix the problem in their first year.  Now it's all fixed and verified, even according to the Republicans. 

Now everyone wants to say it never happened.  How nice.  Enjoy the swim!



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Anonymous wrote:

Here are the facts on the CleanFlo vote.  This is copied directly from the December 18, 2006 Town Council Meeting Minutes which are available online.

Notice the roll call section.  Y=yes, N=no, and A=absent.

#R165B-2006 Award-Clean Flo System
  WHEREAS, N.J.S.A. 40A:11-5(1)(a)ii provides that a contract may be
awarded without competitive bidding as an extraordinary unspecifiable
service when specific requirements have been met, and
 WHEREAS, the Local Public Contracts Law (N.J.S.A. 40:11-1 et seq.)
specifies the requirements delineated in N.J.A.C. 5:34-2 et. seq. must be met including the filing of a certification with the Governing Body clearly describing the nature of the work to be done, stating that it is not reasonably possible to draft specifications, describing the informal solicitation of quotations, and describing in detail why the contract meets the provisions of the statute and the rules specified in N.J.A.C. 5:34-2 et. seq., and
 WHEREAS, the requirements set forth in N.J.A.C. 5:34-2.3(b) have been
met,
 NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED by the Town Council of the Town of
Hammonton that a contract to Clean-Flo International in an amount not to exceed $36,850.00 be awarded.
 Motion by Councilperson S. Lewis, seconded by Councilperson Bertino, adopt resolution, authorize contract and purchase order in the amount of $36,850.00 to Clean-Flo International CONTINGENT UPON review of agreement by Town Solicitor(especially the return/refund policy), approval of funding source by Town CFO, and securing of all other necessary permits (State and otherwise).
 

ROLL CALL

Bertino - Y
Colasurdo - Y
Falcone - A
Massarelli - Y
S. Lewis - Y
Wuillermin - Y
Mayor DiDonato - Y
 Mayor DiDonato declared the motion carried.


This is comical.  Jerry Vitalo is running around telling everyone he voted Clean Flo in.  He wasn't even on council at the time.  Very funny. 

And why didn't Anthony Falcone show up at the meeting?



More selective memory from the HF con artists distorting the facts!!!

The Kool-Aid must be damaging their brains, they can't seem to remember that they were controlling the Town Council agendas in March of 2006

Minutes
REGULAR MEETING OF COUNCILHeld in Town Hall Council Chambers100 Central Avenue, Hammonton, N.J.Monday, March 13, 2006 at 7:00 P.M.

Research Clean Flow for March 27 council meetingAfter a discussion the Mayor and Council authorized investigation intoadditional costs of clean flow program and report back to council atMarch 27 for adoption of resolution for unspecified services withcontingencies.

Minutes
REGULAR MEETING OF COUNCILHeld in Town Hall Council Chambers100 Central Avenue, Hammonton, N.J.Monday, March 27, 2006 at 7:00 P.M.

Councilperson S. LewisParks & RecreationSince the lake will be closed for swimming this summer, the Commissionsuggested other uses of the lake for residents to enjoy. Lou Rodio wasrequested to check into companies that rent canoes & kayaks subject tothe Solicitors review.


The Hammonton First controlled Town Council did not approve the Clean-Flow in March of 2006 , the Hammonton Lake was therefore closed for the summer of 2006 directly because of their failure to act on the matter when it was presented to them early last year.



Ok well what's really comical is that the Hammonton First puppets  did nothing to clean up the lake last year in March of 2006, now after wasting an entire year they want to take credit for the work of others.  Oh what a surprise there.



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jean lewis found clean flow and yes it got done

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jean lewis found clean flow and yes it got done



it was held up by the HF mayor and council in March 2006, a year wasted , sorry you can't seem seem to follow the simple facts, March 2006 no action HF controlled town council then



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More selective memory from the HF con artists distorting the facts!!!

The Kool-Aid must be damaging their brains, they can't seem to remember that they were controlling the Town Council agendas in March of 2006

Minutes
REGULAR MEETING OF COUNCILHeld in Town Hall Council Chambers100 Central Avenue, Hammonton, N.J.Monday, March 13, 2006 at 7:00 P.M.

Research Clean Flow for March 27 council meetingAfter a discussion the Mayor and Council authorized investigation intoadditional costs of clean flow program and report back to council atMarch 27 for adoption of resolution for unspecified services withcontingencies.

Minutes
REGULAR MEETING OF COUNCILHeld in Town Hall Council Chambers100 Central Avenue, Hammonton, N.J.Monday, March 27, 2006 at 7:00 P.M.

Councilperson S. LewisParks & RecreationSince the lake will be closed for swimming this summer, the Commissionsuggested other uses of the lake for residents to enjoy. Lou Rodio wasrequested to check into companies that rent canoes & kayaks subject tothe Solicitors review.


The Hammonton First controlled Town Council did not approve the Clean-Flow in March of 2006 , the Hammonton Lake was therefore closed for the summer of 2006 directly because of their failure to act on the matter when it was presented to them early last year.



Ok well what's really comical is that the Hammonton First puppets  did nothing to clean up the lake last year in March of 2006, now after wasting an entire year they want to take credit for the work of others.  Oh what a surprise there.



This pretty much says it all.  Hammonton First Mayor and Council did nothing last year when they had fool control of town council.



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Here are the facts on the CleanFlo vote.  This is copied directly from the December 18, 2006 Town Council Meeting Minutes which are available online.

Notice the roll call section.  Y=yes, N=no, and A=absent.

#R165B-2006 Award-Clean Flo System
  WHEREAS, N.J.S.A. 40A:11-5(1)(a)ii provides that a contract may be
awarded without competitive bidding as an extraordinary unspecifiable
service when specific requirements have been met, and
 WHEREAS, the Local Public Contracts Law (N.J.S.A. 40:11-1 et seq.)
specifies the requirements delineated in N.J.A.C. 5:34-2 et. seq. must be met including the filing of a certification with the Governing Body clearly describing the nature of the work to be done, stating that it is not reasonably possible to draft specifications, describing the informal solicitation of quotations, and describing in detail why the contract meets the provisions of the statute and the rules specified in N.J.A.C. 5:34-2 et. seq., and
 WHEREAS, the requirements set forth in N.J.A.C. 5:34-2.3(b) have been
met,
 NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED by the Town Council of the Town of
Hammonton that a contract to Clean-Flo International in an amount not to exceed $36,850.00 be awarded.
 Motion by Councilperson S. Lewis, seconded by Councilperson Bertino, adopt resolution, authorize contract and purchase order in the amount of $36,850.00 to Clean-Flo International CONTINGENT UPON review of agreement by Town Solicitor(especially the return/refund policy), approval of funding source by Town CFO, and securing of all other necessary permits (State and otherwise).
 

ROLL CALL

Bertino - Y
Colasurdo - Y
Falcone - A
Massarelli - Y
S. Lewis - Y
Wuillermin - Y
Mayor DiDonato - Y
 Mayor DiDonato declared the motion carried.


The R's and D's don't want people to know the truth except they can't hold it back.

1.  For YEARS nothing was done to clean up the lake

2.  HF got into office in January 2006

3.  The poster above shows that in March 2006 HF authorized to study if Clean Flo would work.

4.  In December 2006 Clean Flo was approved

5.  Now it shows Clean Flo works.

Why didn't the R's and D's do anything for all those years?



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The R's and D' did do something!!! When HF decided they wanted to do more studies as you note back in March 2006, the R's & D's voted to go ahead with the project then. They knew we had enough information already to make a decision and now have been proven right. If HF would have listened back then we would have had the lake last year to swim in. But because of their inability to make a decision we lost the lake for another 1 1/2 years.

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Anonymous wrote:
The R's and D's don't want people to know the truth except they can't hold it back.

1.  For YEARS nothing was done to clean up the lake

2.  HF got into office in January 2006

3.  The poster above shows that in March 2006 HF authorized to study if Clean Flo would work.

4.  In December 2006 Clean Flo was approved

5.  Now it shows Clean Flo works.

Why didn't the R's and D's do anything for all those years?



Well you can try all you want to distort the truth - but the facts tell a much different story.  This project was already subjected to enough study in the Fall of 2005, as reported in town council minutes for Sept. and Oct. copied below.    The HF mayor and council needed no further "study" in March 2006 they needed to act and the Hammonton Lake would have been open for swimming last year. 

REGULAR MEETING OF COUNCIL
Monday, September 26, 2005 at 7:00 P.M.
 
COMMITTEE REPORTS  COUNCILPERSON S. LEWIS
 
Regarding Hammonton Lake aeration improvements /Cleanflo system, as you
may recall the NJDEP application was made for Hammonton Lake in 2003,
requesting monies to use the Cleanflo process. The Process has not been
used in NJ and there was some skepticism on the state level, regarding
clean flos claims regarding the systems effectiveness. We tried
getting the state to fund the work as a pilot program that if the
process was found to be at least half as effective a claimed, that it
would offer a viable method of restoring lakes vs. dredging, which I
not economically feasible. The town had local support including
Pinelands and NJDEP (Steve Jacobus of watershed group) but ultimately
did not make the final cut regarding grant awards.
I have been in contact with Clean Flo International. On file we have
our engineering study results and the cost proposal from Nov 2000.
As of this writing a current cost estimate is being prepared by Clean
Flo for consideration by the Park Commission and Mayor and Council.
 
 
REGULAR MEETING OF COUNCIL
Monday, October 24, 2005 at 7:00 P.M.
 
COMMITTEE REPORTS  COUNCILPERSON S. LEWIS
 
Clean Flo
Brian King of Clean Flo presented information to the Commissioners
regarding the installation of a seminar flow aeration system at the
Hammonton Lake.
Overall the commissioners appeared to favor the process, however they
had several items that they wanted addressed. The size of the lake was
a question. We now have confirmation that the lake size is
approximately 36 acres. Also the commissioners requested a field trip
to several existing sites where the Clean Flo system is in operation as
well as an on site lake visit to determine the position of the diffuser
units. The field trip has tentatively been set up for Monday, October
31st. Commissioners, Mayor and Council and other interested parties will
meet at R&V offices at 8:15am. Before a final commitment is undertaken
it is important to seek the answers to these concerns.
Terry Vogt of R&V will participate in the field trip at a cost of
$1200.00 for the day. His responsibility will be to find out who is
using the product and evaluate the effectiveness of the Clean Flo
System.
What I am asking of this Mayor and Council tonight is general support
for moving forward with the investigation of the Clean Flo System
understanding that the current cost is $117,000 subject to revision
based upon lake acreage of 36 acres and the approval to spend $1200.00
for R&V site visits. To gather information critical to the decision
making process.
Motion by S. Lewis, seconded by Councilperson Olivo, authorize
Remington and Vernick to conduct on site visit in Pennsylvania to
investigate clean flow process in the amount of $1,200.00.
ROLL CALL Yeas: Bertino, Clark, Falcone, Morano, Olivo,
S. Lewis and Mayor Ingemi.
Nays: None.
Mayor Ingemi declared the motion carried.



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Anonymous wrote:
The R's and D's don't want people to know the truth except they can't hold it back.

1. For YEARS nothing was done to clean up the lake

2. HF got into office in January 2006

3. The poster above shows that in March 2006 HF authorized to study if Clean Flo would work.

4. In December 2006 Clean Flo was approved

5. Now it shows Clean Flo works.

Why didn't the R's and D's do anything for all those years?



Well you can try all you want to distort the truth - but the facts tell a much different story. This project was already subjected to enough study in the Fall of 2005, as reported in town council minutes for Sept. and Oct. copied below. The HF mayor and council needed no further "study" in March 2006 they needed to act and the Hammonton Lake would have been open for swimming last year.

REGULAR MEETING OF COUNCIL
Monday, September 26, 2005 at 7:00 P.M.

COMMITTEE REPORTSCOUNCILPERSON S. LEWIS

Regarding Hammonton Lake aeration improvements /Cleanflo system, as you
may recall the NJDEP application was made for Hammonton Lake in 2003,
requesting monies to use the Cleanflo process. The Process has not been
used in NJ and there was some skepticism on the state level, regarding
clean flos claims regarding the systems effectiveness. We tried
getting the state to fund the work as a pilot program that if the
process was found to be at least half as effective a claimed, that it
would offer a viable method of restoring lakes vs. dredging, which I
not economically feasible. The town had local support including
Pinelands and NJDEP (Steve Jacobus of watershed group) but ultimately
did not make the final cut regarding grant awards.
I have been in contact with Clean Flo International. On file we have
our engineering study results and the cost proposal from Nov 2000.
As of this writing a current cost estimate is being prepared by Clean
Flo for consideration by the Park Commission and Mayor and Council.


REGULAR MEETING OF COUNCIL
Monday, October 24, 2005 at 7:00 P.M.

COMMITTEE REPORTSCOUNCILPERSON S. LEWIS

Clean Flo
Brian King of Clean Flo presented information to the Commissioners
regarding the installation of a seminar flow aeration system at the
Hammonton Lake.
Overall the commissioners appeared to favor the process, however they
had several items that they wanted addressed. The size of the lake was
a question. We now have confirmation that the lake size is
approximately 36 acres. Also the commissioners requested a field trip
to several existing sites where the Clean Flo system is in operation as
well as an on site lake visit to determine the position of the diffuser
units. The field trip has tentatively been set up for Monday, October
31st. Commissioners, Mayor and Council and other interested parties will
meet at R&V offices at 8:15am. Before a final commitment is undertaken
it is important to seek the answers to these concerns.
Terry Vogt of R&V will participate in the field trip at a cost of
$1200.00 for the day. His responsibility will be to find out who is
using the product and evaluate the effectiveness of the Clean Flo
System.
What I am asking of this Mayor and Council tonight is general support
for moving forward with the investigation of the Clean Flo System
understanding that the current cost is $117,000 subject to revision
based upon lake acreage of 36 acres and the approval to spend $1200.00
for R&V site visits. To gather information critical to the decision
making process.
Motion by S. Lewis, seconded by Councilperson Olivo, authorize
Remington and Vernick to conduct on site visit in Pennsylvania to
investigate clean flow process in the amount of $1,200.00.
ROLL CALL Yeas: Bertino, Clark, Falcone, Morano, Olivo,
S. Lewis and Mayor Ingemi.
Nays: None.
Mayor Ingemi declared the motion carried.

 




 PLAIN AND SIMPLE.  HAMMONTON FIRST VOTED NO on MARCH 2006.  This cost Jeannie Lewis the election.  This was her project and HF let her down.  She and Bertino Voted YES while HF voted NO.



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Anonymous wrote:
The R's and D's don't want people to know the truth except they can't hold it back.

1.  For YEARS nothing was done to clean up the lake

2.  HF got into office in January 2006

3.  The poster above shows that in March 2006 HF authorized to study if Clean Flo would work.

4.  In December 2006 Clean Flo was approved

5.  Now it shows Clean Flo works.

Why didn't the R's and D's do anything for all those years?



Well you can try all you want to distort the truth - but the facts tell a much different story.  This project was already subjected to enough study in the Fall of 2005, as reported in town council minutes for Sept. and Oct. copied below.    The HF mayor and council needed no further "study" in March 2006 they needed to act and the Hammonton Lake would have been open for swimming last year. 

REGULAR MEETING OF COUNCIL
Monday, September 26, 2005 at 7:00 P.M.
 
COMMITTEE REPORTS  COUNCILPERSON S. LEWIS
 
Regarding Hammonton Lake aeration improvements /Cleanflo system, as you
may recall the NJDEP application was made for Hammonton Lake in 2003,
requesting monies to use the Cleanflo process. The Process has not been
used in NJ and there was some skepticism on the state level, regarding
clean flos claims regarding the systems effectiveness. We tried
getting the state to fund the work as a pilot program that if the
process was found to be at least half as effective a claimed, that it
would offer a viable method of restoring lakes vs. dredging, which I
not economically feasible. The town had local support including
Pinelands and NJDEP (Steve Jacobus of watershed group) but ultimately
did not make the final cut regarding grant awards.
I have been in contact with Clean Flo International. On file we have
our engineering study results and the cost proposal from Nov 2000.
As of this writing a current cost estimate is being prepared by Clean
Flo for consideration by the Park Commission and Mayor and Council.
 
 
REGULAR MEETING OF COUNCIL
Monday, October 24, 2005 at 7:00 P.M.
 
COMMITTEE REPORTS  COUNCILPERSON S. LEWIS
 
Clean Flo
Brian King of Clean Flo presented information to the Commissioners
regarding the installation of a seminar flow aeration system at the
Hammonton Lake.
Overall the commissioners appeared to favor the process, however they
had several items that they wanted addressed. The size of the lake was
a question. We now have confirmation that the lake size is
approximately 36 acres. Also the commissioners requested a field trip
to several existing sites where the Clean Flo system is in operation as
well as an on site lake visit to determine the position of the diffuser
units. The field trip has tentatively been set up for Monday, October
31st. Commissioners, Mayor and Council and other interested parties will
meet at R&V offices at 8:15am. Before a final commitment is undertaken
it is important to seek the answers to these concerns.
Terry Vogt of R&V will participate in the field trip at a cost of
$1200.00 for the day. His responsibility will be to find out who is
using the product and evaluate the effectiveness of the Clean Flo
System.
What I am asking of this Mayor and Council tonight is general support
for moving forward with the investigation of the Clean Flo System
understanding that the current cost is $117,000 subject to revision
based upon lake acreage of 36 acres and the approval to spend $1200.00
for R&V site visits. To gather information critical to the decision
making process.
Motion by S. Lewis, seconded by Councilperson Olivo, authorize
Remington and Vernick to conduct on site visit in Pennsylvania to
investigate clean flow process in the amount of $1,200.00.
ROLL CALL Yeas: Bertino, Clark, Falcone, Morano, Olivo,
S. Lewis and Mayor Ingemi.
Nays: None.
Mayor Ingemi declared the motion carried.






IF THERE WAS ENOUGH STUDY IN 2005 WHY DIDN'T THE REPUBLICANS VOTE FOR CLEAN FLO THEN?

WHY DID IT HAVE TO WAIT FOR HF TO DO THE WORK?

AND WHY THE HECK IS THE ADMIN CLAIMING THAT ANTHONY FALCONE DIDN'T MISS AS MANY MTGS AS TWO OTHER COUNICLPEOPLE? ANTHONY MISSED THE CLEAN FLO MEETING.

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Sorry Spin-Master the question was ... Why didn't the HF mayor and council act in March 2006 when Lewis presented it for their action?   The Lake would have been open for swimming last year.  She ran on their ticket and the HF crew left her high and dry on the Clean-Flo project (pun intended).



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Here I typed it really slow for you this time so you can follow along.

Well you can try all you want to distort the truth - but the facts tell a much different story.  This project was already subjected to enough study in the Fall of 2005, as reported in town council minutes for Sept. and Oct. copied below.    The HF mayor and council needed no further "study" in March 2006 they needed to act and the Hammonton Lake would have been open for swimming last year.
 


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IF THERE WAS ENOUGH STUDY IN 2005 WHY DIDN'T THE REPUBLICANS VOTE FOR CLEAN FLO THEN?

WHY DID IT HAVE TO WAIT FOR HF TO DO THE WORK?

AND WHY THE HECK IS THE ADMIN CLAIMING THAT ANTHONY FALCONE DIDN'T MISS AS MANY MTGS AS TWO OTHER COUNICLPEOPLE? ANTHONY MISSED THE CLEAN FLO MEETING.




I think the above question is very valid. Admin, do you have an answer?

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How is that question valid when you are asking about Anthony missing ONE meeting? Do we need to discuss how many meetings Jimmy Bertino has missed and how about the all time winner, Christine Masserelli?

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Lewis and another veteran councilman, James Bertino, urged their fellow council members to approve the project.

We've either got to say, Yeah, we're doing this,' or the lake dies, Bertino said.

It's really now,' Lewis said. There really are no alternatives.


March 2006. 

In a Hammonton News poll.  69.6% of people felt action was needed NOW to clean up the lake. 

 



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How is that question valid when you are asking about Anthony missing ONE meeting? Do we need to discuss how many meetings Jimmy Bertino has missed and how about the all time winner, Christine Masserelli?





Anthony Falcone missed a lot more meetings than Jimmy Bertino.

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If I recall correctly Rocky wanted the project nixed because he did not know the cost for the electricity to run the pump.



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The electric costs didn't change form back then to now so why do you think he correctly voted no. The success of today proves he was wrong.

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i GUESS having the lake open  and a new water dept truck is more important then funding the police and fire departments. good job however is taking credit this week . 

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I didn't mean to imply that he was correct.  He has a fountain spray in the pond  at his gold course.  He must know about electricity costs.  It was just another delay that didn't have to be. 
By the way, is it true that the mayor didn't know what G O P stands for when Jim Bertino was explaining about the jazz concert.

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Admin wrote:

How is that question valid when you are asking about Anthony missing ONE meeting? Do we need to discuss how many meetings Jimmy Bertino has missed and how about the all time winner, Christine Masserelli?





Anthony Falcone missed he Clean-Flo meeting and then missed the town hall vote a week and a half later. What's the point f being on council if he doesn't go to the meetings0


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Anonymous wrote:

Admin wrote:

How is that question valid when you are asking about Anthony missing ONE meeting? Do we need to discuss how many meetings Jimmy Bertino has missed and how about the all time winner, Christine Masserelli?





Anthony Falcone missed he Clean-Flo meeting and then missed the town hall vote a week and a half later. What's the point f being on council if he doesn't go to the meetings0




Clean Flo was approved the first year HF was on council. It looks like te reason it was never done before is that Anthony Falcone never showed up to meeting along with Jimmy Bertino, who the admin pointed out missed even more meeting than Falcone.

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Yes on that but when it came to vote on finally voting for Clean-Flo, Hammonton First voted NO.  The lake could have been cleaned last year after finally we had a guaranteed solution. If I remember correctly, Last years democratic candidates were challenging this.  Why did Hammonton First vote NO when we had a money back guarantee???

 



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Yes,
I remember that dumb ass saying that in a meeting

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The only thing I remember is that HF voted NO, the Republicans did their usual "NOTHING", and the Dems pressured eveyone (as usual).

There is no reason for the lake to ever be closed.  If the Mayor had these "experts" they should have had solutions to fix the problem in a timely matter.  The facts are that both, the Reps and the HF'ers sat on this for over a year.  In this day and age, with today's technology, the lake should not have been closed for 1 day, and if the Dems were in control, it wouldn't ever be.

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Anonymous wrote:

 

Anonymous wrote:

 

Admin wrote:

How is that question valid when you are asking about Anthony missing ONE meeting? Do we need to discuss how many meetings Jimmy Bertino has missed and how about the all time winner, Christine Masserelli?




 


Anthony Falcone missed he Clean-Flo meeting and then missed the town hall vote a week and a half later. What's the point f being on council if he doesn't go to the meetings0



 


Clean Flo was approved the first year HF was on council. It looks like te reason it was never done before is that Anthony Falcone never showed up to meeting along with Jimmy Bertino, who the admin pointed out missed even more meeting than Falcone.

 



Even if Falcone was present at the time the Clean-Flo project was first voted on.  Hammonton First still would have VOTED NO.  HAMMONTON VOTED NO ON A GUARANTEED SOLUTION.  Even Jeannie Lewis voted YES.  This was her project. In the end it cost her the election.

 



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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Admin wrote:

How is that question valid when you are asking about Anthony missing ONE meeting? Do we need to discuss how many meetings Jimmy Bertino has missed and how about the all time winner, Christine Masserelli?





Anthony Falcone missed he Clean-Flo meeting and then missed the town hall vote a week and a half later. What's the point f being on council if he doesn't go to the meetings0




Clean Flo was approved the first year HF was on council. It looks like te reason it was never done before is that Anthony Falcone never showed up to meeting along with Jimmy Bertino, who the admin pointed out missed even more meeting than Falcone.



Why would you expect that Anthony Falcone and the Republicans could have passed Clean Flo is 2005? The did nothing on every issue and now whine because people see HF handled this their first year in office. All the D's and R's can complain about is that it took 11 months for HF t get the job done. Well the D's and R's had YEARS and did nothing! What is the excuse for that?

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Why is it you won't admit that when this solution was presented to council, HF voted against it and Anthony Falcone and the Reps voted in favor. Now they have been proven right and HF proven wrong. We lost 1 1/2 years because of the mistake by HF.

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Here are the facts on the CleanFlo vote.  This is copied directly from the December 18, 2006 Town Council Meeting Minutes which are available online.

Notice the roll call section.  Y=yes, N=no, and A=absent.

#R165B-2006 Award-Clean Flo System
  WHEREAS, N.J.S.A. 40A:11-5(1)(a)ii provides that a contract may be
awarded without competitive bidding as an extraordinary unspecifiable
service when specific requirements have been met, and
 WHEREAS, the Local Public Contracts Law (N.J.S.A. 40:11-1 et seq.)
specifies the requirements delineated in N.J.A.C. 5:34-2 et. seq. must be met including the filing of a certification with the Governing Body clearly describing the nature of the work to be done, stating that it is not reasonably possible to draft specifications, describing the informal solicitation of quotations, and describing in detail why the contract meets the provisions of the statute and the rules specified in N.J.A.C. 5:34-2 et. seq., and
 WHEREAS, the requirements set forth in N.J.A.C. 5:34-2.3(b) have been
met,
 NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED by the Town Council of the Town of
Hammonton that a contract to Clean-Flo International in an amount not to exceed $36,850.00 be awarded.
 Motion by Councilperson S. Lewis, seconded by Councilperson Bertino, adopt resolution, authorize contract and purchase order in the amount of $36,850.00 to Clean-Flo International CONTINGENT UPON review of agreement by Town Solicitor(especially the return/refund policy), approval of funding source by Town CFO, and securing of all other necessary permits (State and otherwise).
 

ROLL CALL

Bertino - Y
Colasurdo - Y
Falcone - A
Massarelli - Y
S. Lewis - Y
Wuillermin - Y
Mayor DiDonato - Y
 Mayor DiDonato declared the motion carried.




Let's face it. This is another of the Democrats' whacky bashing ideas. HF voted for this after years in town council doing nothing. The Democrats have no idea what projects they would accomplish if elected. So Jim MacLane will post that "we'll tell you when we want" since they can't even figure out what they want to do.

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Why is it you won't admit that when this solution was presented to council, HF voted against it and Anthony Falcone and the Reps voted in favor. Now they have been proven right and HF proven wrong. We lost 1 1/2 years because of the mistake by HF.



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Anonymous wrote:

Here are the facts on the CleanFlo vote.  This is copied directly from the December 18, 2006 Town Council Meeting Minutes which are available online.

Notice the roll call section.  Y=yes, N=no, and A=absent.

#R165B-2006 Award-Clean Flo System
  WHEREAS, N.J.S.A. 40A:11-5(1)(a)ii provides that a contract may be
awarded without competitive bidding as an extraordinary unspecifiable
service when specific requirements have been met, and
 WHEREAS, the Local Public Contracts Law (N.J.S.A. 40:11-1 et seq.)
specifies the requirements delineated in N.J.A.C. 5:34-2 et. seq. must be met including the filing of a certification with the Governing Body clearly describing the nature of the work to be done, stating that it is not reasonably possible to draft specifications, describing the informal solicitation of quotations, and describing in detail why the contract meets the provisions of the statute and the rules specified in N.J.A.C. 5:34-2 et. seq., and
 WHEREAS, the requirements set forth in N.J.A.C. 5:34-2.3(b) have been
met,
 NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED by the Town Council of the Town of
Hammonton that a contract to Clean-Flo International in an amount not to exceed $36,850.00 be awarded.
 Motion by Councilperson S. Lewis, seconded by Councilperson Bertino, adopt resolution, authorize contract and purchase order in the amount of $36,850.00 to Clean-Flo International CONTINGENT UPON review of agreement by Town Solicitor(especially the return/refund policy), approval of funding source by Town CFO, and securing of all other necessary permits (State and otherwise).
 

ROLL CALL

Bertino - Y
Colasurdo - Y
Falcone - A
Massarelli - Y
S. Lewis - Y
Wuillermin - Y
Mayor DiDonato - Y
 Mayor DiDonato declared the motion carried.




Let's face it. This is another of the Democrats' whacky bashing ideas. HF voted for this after years in town council doing nothing. The Democrats have no idea what projects they would accomplish if elected. So Jim MacLane will post that "we'll tell you when we want" since they can't even figure out what they want to do.



The real question is why was nothing done all those years before HF got involved? The Clean Flo solution was brought before Council in 2005 when it was Anthony Falcone, Jimm Bertino, Anthony Ingemi, Ralph Moran, Russell Clark controlled things.

Why did they not vote to do this? Why did they not get the downtown sidewalks started? Why did they not get Egg Harbor Road paved? Why did they not start Central Ave? Why did they not move the historic town hall? Why did they not work with the school to fix their finances.

What the heck were they doing all those years?

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Anthony was a lone Democratic voice for too long.

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 If the town hall was built on 11th street there wouldn't have been a need to move the old town hall.  That area could of provided ample parking for the post office and downtown businesses. 



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Anonymous wrote:

Here are the facts on the CleanFlo vote.  This is copied directly from the December 18, 2006 Town Council Meeting Minutes which are available online.

Notice the roll call section.  Y=yes, N=no, and A=absent.

#R165B-2006 Award-Clean Flo System
  WHEREAS, N.J.S.A. 40A:11-5(1)(a)ii provides that a contract may be
awarded without competitive bidding as an extraordinary unspecifiable
service when specific requirements have been met, and
 WHEREAS, the Local Public Contracts Law (N.J.S.A. 40:11-1 et seq.)
specifies the requirements delineated in N.J.A.C. 5:34-2 et. seq. must be met including the filing of a certification with the Governing Body clearly describing the nature of the work to be done, stating that it is not reasonably possible to draft specifications, describing the informal solicitation of quotations, and describing in detail why the contract meets the provisions of the statute and the rules specified in N.J.A.C. 5:34-2 et. seq., and
 WHEREAS, the requirements set forth in N.J.A.C. 5:34-2.3(b) have been
met,
 NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED by the Town Council of the Town of
Hammonton that a contract to Clean-Flo International in an amount not to exceed $36,850.00 be awarded.
 Motion by Councilperson S. Lewis, seconded by Councilperson Bertino, adopt resolution, authorize contract and purchase order in the amount of $36,850.00 to Clean-Flo International CONTINGENT UPON review of agreement by Town Solicitor(especially the return/refund policy), approval of funding source by Town CFO, and securing of all other necessary permits (State and otherwise).
 

ROLL CALL

Bertino - Y
Colasurdo - Y
Falcone - A
Massarelli - Y
S. Lewis - Y
Wuillermin - Y
Mayor DiDonato - Y
 Mayor DiDonato declared the motion carried.




Let's face it. This is another of the Democrats' whacky bashing ideas. HF voted for this after years in town council doing nothing. The Democrats have no idea what projects they would accomplish if elected. So Jim MacLane will post that "we'll tell you when we want" since they can't even figure out what they want to do.



The real question is why was nothing done all those years before HF got involved? The Clean Flo solution was brought before Council in 2005 when it was Anthony Falcone, Jimm Bertino, Anthony Ingemi, Ralph Moran, Russell Clark controlled things.

Why did they not vote to do this? Why did they not get the downtown sidewalks started? Why did they not get Egg Harbor Road paved? Why did they not start Central Ave? Why did they not move the historic town hall? Why did they not work with the school to fix their finances.

What the heck were they doing all those years?



Now w see the Democrats saying they didn't want to fix up and move the historic town hall. It really looks nice at Veteran's Park. But again, they want to do nothing.

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Where did and Democrat say they did not want to fix up the Historic Town Hall????

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 If the town hall was built on 11th street there wouldn't have been a need to move the old town hall.  That area could of provided ample parking for the post office and downtown businesses. 



The Hammonton First way.... to better government!

anything  good ...
take credit for it

everything  bad ... find somebody to blame it on





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Here are the facts on the CleanFlo vote.  This is copied directly from the December 18, 2006 Town Council Meeting Minutes which are available online.

Notice the roll call section.  Y=yes, N=no, and A=absent.

#R165B-2006 Award-Clean Flo System
  WHEREAS, N.J.S.A. 40A:11-5(1)(a)ii provides that a contract may be
awarded without competitive bidding as an extraordinary unspecifiable
service when specific requirements have been met, and
 WHEREAS, the Local Public Contracts Law (N.J.S.A. 40:11-1 et seq.)
specifies the requirements delineated in N.J.A.C. 5:34-2 et. seq. must be met including the filing of a certification with the Governing Body clearly describing the nature of the work to be done, stating that it is not reasonably possible to draft specifications, describing the informal solicitation of quotations, and describing in detail why the contract meets the provisions of the statute and the rules specified in N.J.A.C. 5:34-2 et. seq., and
 WHEREAS, the requirements set forth in N.J.A.C. 5:34-2.3(b) have been
met,
 NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED by the Town Council of the Town of
Hammonton that a contract to Clean-Flo International in an amount not to exceed $36,850.00 be awarded.
 Motion by Councilperson S. Lewis, seconded by Councilperson Bertino, adopt resolution, authorize contract and purchase order in the amount of $36,850.00 to Clean-Flo International CONTINGENT UPON review of agreement by Town Solicitor(especially the return/refund policy), approval of funding source by Town CFO, and securing of all other necessary permits (State and otherwise).
 

ROLL CALL

Bertino - Y
Colasurdo - Y
Falcone - A
Massarelli - Y
S. Lewis - Y
Wuillermin - Y
Mayor DiDonato - Y
 Mayor DiDonato declared the motion carried.



It's certainly nice to see that this is working.  I don't know why the Democrats want to turn this into a bashing session like every other issue in town.  They just want to tear the town apart.  Look at the terrible things Rich Jacobus writes when he supports them.  If they truly believed in unity, they would denounce his horrible and devisive writings.



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The Dems are only about uniting the Town. We are running a positive campaign while enduring constant bashing from the HF camp.

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How is that question valid when you are asking about Anthony missing ONE meeting? Do we need to discuss how many meetings Jimmy Bertino has missed and how about the all time winner, Christine Masserelli?




How can you even compare Anthony Falcone and Jimmy Bertino?  Falcone missed a ton of meetings in his last year on council. 

Falcone missed the meeting council voted on a zero tax increase.  Falcone missed the meeting the Central Avenue project was awarded.  He missed the Clean Flo meeting.  He missed the meetings to authorize bids for Town Hall and also to award the contract.  When he did show up he didn't even know he was on the school committee!  He would keep saying "no report."  Did the guy even pay attention when he was there?

On the other hand, Jimmy Bertino is a long timer who has been in council 10+ years.  There is no comparison.



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Here are the facts on the CleanFlo vote. This is copied directly from the December 18, 2006 Town Council Meeting Minutes which are available online.

Notice the roll call section. Y=yes, N=no, and A=absent.

#R165B-2006 Award-Clean Flo System
WHEREAS, N.J.S.A. 40A:11-5(1)(a)ii provides that a contract may be
awarded without competitive bidding as an extraordinary unspecifiable
service when specific requirements have been met, and
WHEREAS, the Local Public Contracts Law (N.J.S.A. 40:11-1 et seq.)
specifies the requirements delineated in N.J.A.C. 5:34-2 et. seq. must be met including the filing of a certification with the Governing Body clearly describing the nature of the work to be done, stating that it is not reasonably possible to draft specifications, describing the informal solicitation of quotations, and describing in detail why the contract meets the provisions of the statute and the rules specified in N.J.A.C. 5:34-2 et. seq., and
WHEREAS, the requirements set forth in N.J.A.C. 5:34-2.3(b) have been
met,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED by the Town Council of the Town of
Hammonton that a contract to Clean-Flo International in an amount not to exceed $36,850.00 be awarded.
Motion by Councilperson S. Lewis, seconded by Councilperson Bertino, adopt resolution, authorize contract and purchase order in the amount of $36,850.00 to Clean-Flo International CONTINGENT UPON review of agreement by Town Solicitor(especially the return/refund policy), approval of funding source by Town CFO, and securing of all other necessary permits (State and otherwise).

ROLL CALL

Bertino - Y
Colasurdo - Y
Falcone - A
Massarelli - Y
S. Lewis - Y
Wuillermin - Y
Mayor DiDonato - Y
Mayor DiDonato declared the motion carried.



 


Let's face it. This is another of the Democrats' whacky bashing ideas. HF voted for this after years in town council doing nothing. The Democrats have no idea what projects they would accomplish if elected. So Jim MacLane will post that "we'll tell you when we want" since they can't even figure out what they want to do.


 


The real question is why was nothing done all those years before HF got involved? The Clean Flo solution was brought before Council in 2005 when it was Anthony Falcone, Jimm Bertino, Anthony Ingemi, Ralph Moran, Russell Clark controlled things.

Why did they not vote to do this? Why did they not get the downtown sidewalks started? Why did they not get Egg Harbor Road paved? Why did they not start Central Ave? Why did they not move the historic town hall? Why did they not work with the school to fix their finances.

What the heck were they doing all those years?


 


Now w see the Democrats saying they didn't want to fix up and move the historic town hall. It really looks nice at Veteran's Park. But again, they want to do nothing.

 




 That's a bunch a baloney.  No Democratic candidate or anyone on this forum said such things.  If anything the Democrats want to make sure things get done well.



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Here are the facts on the CleanFlo vote.  This is copied directly from the December 18, 2006 Town Council Meeting Minutes which are available online.

Notice the roll call section.  Y=yes, N=no, and A=absent.

#R165B-2006 Award-Clean Flo System
  WHEREAS, N.J.S.A. 40A:11-5(1)(a)ii provides that a contract may be
awarded without competitive bidding as an extraordinary unspecifiable
service when specific requirements have been met, and
 WHEREAS, the Local Public Contracts Law (N.J.S.A. 40:11-1 et seq.)
specifies the requirements delineated in N.J.A.C. 5:34-2 et. seq. must be met including the filing of a certification with the Governing Body clearly describing the nature of the work to be done, stating that it is not reasonably possible to draft specifications, describing the informal solicitation of quotations, and describing in detail why the contract meets the provisions of the statute and the rules specified in N.J.A.C. 5:34-2 et. seq., and
 WHEREAS, the requirements set forth in N.J.A.C. 5:34-2.3(b) have been
met,
 NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED by the Town Council of the Town of
Hammonton that a contract to Clean-Flo International in an amount not to exceed $36,850.00 be awarded.
 Motion by Councilperson S. Lewis, seconded by Councilperson Bertino, adopt resolution, authorize contract and purchase order in the amount of $36,850.00 to Clean-Flo International CONTINGENT UPON review of agreement by Town Solicitor(especially the return/refund policy), approval of funding source by Town CFO, and securing of all other necessary permits (State and otherwise).
 

ROLL CALL

Bertino - Y
Colasurdo - Y
Falcone - A
Massarelli - Y
S. Lewis - Y
Wuillermin - Y
Mayor DiDonato - Y
 Mayor DiDonato declared the motion carried.



It's certainly nice to see that this is working.  I don't know why the Democrats want to turn this into a bashing session like every other issue in town.  They just want to tear the town apart.  Look at the terrible things Rich Jacobus writes when he supports them.  If they truly believed in unity, they would denounce his horrible and devisive writings.





I guess it's time to see more horible letters to the editor. The last few weeks had positive ones, but I guess the bashers need to wind up and throw more stuff at the mayor.

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Anonymous wrote:

 

Anonymous wrote:

Here are the facts on the CleanFlo vote. This is copied directly from the December 18, 2006 Town Council Meeting Minutes which are available online.

Notice the roll call section. Y=yes, N=no, and A=absent.

#R165B-2006 Award-Clean Flo System
WHEREAS, N.J.S.A. 40A:11-5(1)(a)ii provides that a contract may be
awarded without competitive bidding as an extraordinary unspecifiable
service when specific requirements have been met, and
WHEREAS, the Local Public Contracts Law (N.J.S.A. 40:11-1 et seq.)
specifies the requirements delineated in N.J.A.C. 5:34-2 et. seq. must be met including the filing of a certification with the Governing Body clearly describing the nature of the work to be done, stating that it is not reasonably possible to draft specifications, describing the informal solicitation of quotations, and describing in detail why the contract meets the provisions of the statute and the rules specified in N.J.A.C. 5:34-2 et. seq., and
WHEREAS, the requirements set forth in N.J.A.C. 5:34-2.3(b) have been
met,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED by the Town Council of the Town of
Hammonton that a contract to Clean-Flo International in an amount not to exceed $36,850.00 be awarded.
Motion by Councilperson S. Lewis, seconded by Councilperson Bertino, adopt resolution, authorize contract and purchase order in the amount of $36,850.00 to Clean-Flo International CONTINGENT UPON review of agreement by Town Solicitor(especially the return/refund policy), approval of funding source by Town CFO, and securing of all other necessary permits (State and otherwise).

ROLL CALL

Bertino - Y
Colasurdo - Y
Falcone - A
Massarelli - Y
S. Lewis - Y
Wuillermin - Y
Mayor DiDonato - Y
Mayor DiDonato declared the motion carried.



It's certainly nice to see that this is working. I don't know why the Democrats want to turn this into a bashing session like every other issue in town. They just want to tear the town apart. Look at the terrible things Rich Jacobus writes when he supports them. If they truly believed in unity, they would denounce his horrible and devisive writings.




 


I guess it's time to see more horible letters to the editor. The last few weeks had positive ones, but I guess the bashers need to wind up and throw more stuff at the mayor.

 




 The masters in the art of bashing is Hammonton First.  That's how they came to power.  I don't think I've heard them say one good thing about those who aren't in Hammonton First.  They cry quickly and say it's called bashing when people ask them simple questions.  



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 If the town hall was built on 11th street there wouldn't have been a need to move the old town hall.  That area could of provided ample parking for the post office and downtown businesses. 



The Hammonton First way.... to better government!

anything  good ...
take credit for it

everything  bad ... find somebody to blame it on





mayor and HF power brokers are the masters of propaganda & self grandizing



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Anonymous wrote:

 

Anonymous wrote:

 

Anonymous wrote:

 

Anonymous wrote:

 

Here are the facts on the CleanFlo vote. This is copied directly from the December 18, 2006 Town Council Meeting Minutes which are available online.

Notice the roll call section. Y=yes, N=no, and A=absent.

#R165B-2006 Award-Clean Flo System
WHEREAS, N.J.S.A. 40A:11-5(1)(a)ii provides that a contract may be
awarded without competitive bidding as an extraordinary unspecifiable
service when specific requirements have been met, and
WHEREAS, the Local Public Contracts Law (N.J.S.A. 40:11-1 et seq.)
specifies the requirements delineated in N.J.A.C. 5:34-2 et. seq. must be met including the filing of a certification with the Governing Body clearly describing the nature of the work to be done, stating that it is not reasonably possible to draft specifications, describing the informal solicitation of quotations, and describing in detail why the contract meets the provisions of the statute and the rules specified in N.J.A.C. 5:34-2 et. seq., and
WHEREAS, the requirements set forth in N.J.A.C. 5:34-2.3(b) have been
met,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED by the Town Council of the Town of
Hammonton that a contract to Clean-Flo International in an amount not to exceed $36,850.00 be awarded.
Motion by Councilperson S. Lewis, seconded by Councilperson Bertino, adopt resolution, authorize contract and purchase order in the amount of $36,850.00 to Clean-Flo International CONTINGENT UPON review of agreement by Town Solicitor(especially the return/refund policy), approval of funding source by Town CFO, and securing of all other necessary permits (State and otherwise).

ROLL CALL

Bertino - Y
Colasurdo - Y
Falcone - A
Massarelli - Y
S. Lewis - Y
Wuillermin - Y
Mayor DiDonato - Y
Mayor DiDonato declared the motion carried.



 


Let's face it. This is another of the Democrats' whacky bashing ideas. HF voted for this after years in town council doing nothing. The Democrats have no idea what projects they would accomplish if elected. So Jim MacLane will post that "we'll tell you when we want" since they can't even figure out what they want to do.


 


The real question is why was nothing done all those years before HF got involved? The Clean Flo solution was brought before Council in 2005 when it was Anthony Falcone, Jimm Bertino, Anthony Ingemi, Ralph Moran, Russell Clark controlled things.

Why did they not vote to do this? Why did they not get the downtown sidewalks started? Why did they not get Egg Harbor Road paved? Why did they not start Central Ave? Why did they not move the historic town hall? Why did they not work with the school to fix their finances.

What the heck were they doing all those years?


 


Now w see the Democrats saying they didn't want to fix up and move the historic town hall. It really looks nice at Veteran's Park. But again, they want to do nothing.

 




 That's a bunch a baloney.  No Democratic candidate or anyone on this forum said such things.  If anything the Democrats want to make sure things get done well.





It's important you bashers get your lies organized. You cannot bash HF for moving the historic bldg and say it wasn't needed. The Dems are saying the were not in favor of that.

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Another message provided by the: National Ministry for Public Enlightenment and Propaganda run by the Hammonton First inter-circle of power and influence.

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I'm not sure what you are saying the Dems said. We certainly did not say that the Old Town Hall didn't need to be moved. The new Town Hall is already being built on a postage stamp, so obviously the building had to be moved.

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Anonymous wrote:

 

Anonymous wrote:

 

Anonymous wrote:

 

Anonymous wrote:

 

Anonymous wrote:

 

Here are the facts on the CleanFlo vote. This is copied directly from the December 18, 2006 Town Council Meeting Minutes which are available online.

Notice the roll call section. Y=yes, N=no, and A=absent.

#R165B-2006 Award-Clean Flo System
WHEREAS, N.J.S.A. 40A:11-5(1)(a)ii provides that a contract may be
awarded without competitive bidding as an extraordinary unspecifiable
service when specific requirements have been met, and
WHEREAS, the Local Public Contracts Law (N.J.S.A. 40:11-1 et seq.)
specifies the requirements delineated in N.J.A.C. 5:34-2 et. seq. must be met including the filing of a certification with the Governing Body clearly describing the nature of the work to be done, stating that it is not reasonably possible to draft specifications, describing the informal solicitation of quotations, and describing in detail why the contract meets the provisions of the statute and the rules specified in N.J.A.C. 5:34-2 et. seq., and
WHEREAS, the requirements set forth in N.J.A.C. 5:34-2.3(b) have been
met,
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED by the Town Council of the Town of
Hammonton that a contract to Clean-Flo International in an amount not to exceed $36,850.00 be awarded.
Motion by Councilperson S. Lewis, seconded by Councilperson Bertino, adopt resolution, authorize contract and purchase order in the amount of $36,850.00 to Clean-Flo International CONTINGENT UPON review of agreement by Town Solicitor(especially the return/refund policy), approval of funding source by Town CFO, and securing of all other necessary permits (State and otherwise).

ROLL CALL

Bertino - Y
Colasurdo - Y
Falcone - A
Massarelli - Y
S. Lewis - Y
Wuillermin - Y
Mayor DiDonato - Y
Mayor DiDonato declared the motion carried.



 


Let's face it. This is another of the Democrats' whacky bashing ideas. HF voted for this after years in town council doing nothing. The Democrats have no idea what projects they would accomplish if elected. So Jim MacLane will post that "we'll tell you when we want" since they can't even figure out what they want to do.


 


The real question is why was nothing done all those years before HF got involved? The Clean Flo solution was brought before Council in 2005 when it was Anthony Falcone, Jimm Bertino, Anthony Ingemi, Ralph Moran, Russell Clark controlled things.

Why did they not vote to do this? Why did they not get the downtown sidewalks started? Why did they not get Egg Harbor Road paved? Why did they not start Central Ave? Why did they not move the historic town hall? Why did they not work with the school to fix their finances.

What the heck were they doing all those years?


 


Now w see the Democrats saying they didn't want to fix up and move the historic town hall. It really looks nice at Veteran's Park. But again, they want to do nothing.

 




That's a bunch a baloney. No Democratic candidate or anyone on this forum said such things. If anything the Democrats want to make sure things get done well.




 


It's important you bashers get your lies organized. You cannot bash HF for moving the historic bldg and say it wasn't needed. The Dems are saying the were not in favor of that.

 



The old town hall move was criticized because it was done wrong and risked public safety.  This was the first phase of the town hall project and it led to raised concerns about how the town hall project will progress.  The old town hall is a done issue, the damage was done, Hammonton looked bad, life still goes on.  The end result was that people started to see what was really going on in our so called Open Government.  For those who say it wasn't needed, well the obvious response would be that it wouldn't have been to be moved if the new town hall was built on 11th street.  Since the town hall is being built on the same lot it seems obvious at least me the old town hall would have be moved to allow for parking.  Ironically there's going to be less parking even with the old town hall out of the way.

 



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Rich Jacobus has written so many letters to the editor he should apply to be a weekly columnist.  How did his trial go?  Since the Democrats posted it's start, maybe they should have a nice thread about how it finished up.



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It hasn't even been heard yet, it is in mediation.

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It hasn't even been heard yet, it is in mediation.



The judge had the hearing.  This one is going nowhere since it was a waste of the court's time.



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The judge did not have a hearing. The case has gone into mediation and if the two sides can not come to a mutual agreement as to the results, it will then go back for a trial. Those are the facts!!!

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It hasn't even been heard yet, it is in mediation.



The judge had the hearing. This one is going nowhere since it was a waste of the court's time.

 




 Freedom from tyranny and vendettas is not a waste of time.  Enough is enough.  It's about time people start speaking up and not being afraid to take a stand against wrongdoers.



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The judge didn't see any "tyranny."  The judge didn't see anything like the wild claims of criminality that were first posted.

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The judge didn't see any "tyranny." The judge didn't see anything like the wild claims of criminality that were first posted.



If the case is over and the judge says there's no wrongdoing, so be it.  But no one should be threatened especially in public. That kind of thing should not be tolerated or taken lightly. 

 



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The judge didn't see any "tyranny." The judge didn't see anything like the wild claims of criminality that were first posted.



If the case is over and the judge says there's no wrongdoing, so be it.  But no one should be threatened especially in public. That kind of thing should not be tolerated or taken lightly. 



Sounds like the judge didn't think it ever happened.



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You guys just don't get it!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The judge hasn't even heard anything about the case yet.!!!!!!!!!!!!
The judge has sent it to mediation to see if the two sides can reach a mutual agreement and prevent the need for a trial. If there is no agreement, the case will move forward to a trial.
Then the judge will hear the evidence!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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You guys just don't get it!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The judge hasn't even heard anything about the case yet.!!!!!!!!!!!!
The judge has sent it to mediation to see if the two sides can reach a mutual agreement and prevent the need for a trial. If there is no agreement, the case will move forward to a trial.
Then the judge will hear the evidence!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Keep telling yourself that.



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Of course I will keep telling myself that, it's the truth!!! Just look in the Hammonton News, the trial is set to heard on August 15th!!!!
You want the truth? YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!!!

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Keep telling yourself that and maybe you will feel better.

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Keep telling yourself that and maybe you will feel better.wow, you're pretty thick.

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